The problem with Vertigo it that half of it, at least, originated in DC continuity--Swamp Thing, Hellblazer, and Sandman became Vertigo halfway through, and (while some of the stuff published under Vertigo is clearly out of continuity, like The Invisibles and Y the Last Man) many of the Vertigo characters *are* DC characters. News to me that they were "never meant to be in continuity" though I'm not sure John Constantine aging in real time causes *that* much more of a problem than Alan Scott doing the same thing (although Alan has to do his aging *before* "Year One" while John's allowed to do his in between DC appearences--yeah, I suppose there could be a problem there...)
(Although they should not have dropped Hector and Lyta Hall back into JSA after their time in Sandman. *That* was just too much of a mess--although it would become a bit less of one if they were actually a *different* Hec and Lyta... This is as much of a character and *reasonableness* issue as strictly a continuity one, though, since Hec and Lyta started out in Infinity Inc, clearly within DC [albeit Earth-2 at the time] continuity.)
Splitting continuities is difficult and I come back more and more to an "Ultimate DC" solution, where younger (or the same age but without ~30 years of continuity behind them) versions of Batman, Superman, et al. get reintroduced, while a stretched-out version of normal continuity allows people who need to age *to* age. With room for things like Extreme Justice and Guy Gardner, Warrior to actually happen. (Although on that note, I was pleased that Rebirth acknowledged GGW even if it undid it.)
And yes, for a Bruce Wayne to age, too. Because I don't think a primary-continuity Bruce *will* be allowed to age, and I'm entirely sure I want him to. I, too, like the connectedness and *intergenerational*ness of current DC continuity, but a lot of that exists because of twenty-odd years of separate 'verses; and current continuity is jeopordizing it greatly. And, well, it says something about myself as a fan that I'm willing to wreak all sorts of havok on the Bats for the sake of keeping the JSA and Silver Age JLA on track, but, well, I'm not in charge of DC...
The thing about Hypertime--which would be as good a *mechicnism* for this as any, really--is that it was introduced rather badly and rarely used in a way that makes it at all clear what it *is* and how it can be used. It's stuff like Power Girl's continuity (where, say, she was once NOT at JSAer EVER but there was another adjacent 'verse where she WAS so there was a BLEED and no it's not that the writers were retconning/thought their predecessors were nuts/hadn't bothered to read the damn backissues) that gives Hypertime a bad name. Theoretically, Hypertime means that DC *has* a multiverse still, but when it's not being ignored it's as likely to be used to handwave a continuity glitch as anything else.
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Date: 2005-06-08 01:49 am (UTC)(Although they should not have dropped Hector and Lyta Hall back into JSA after their time in Sandman. *That* was just too much of a mess--although it would become a bit less of one if they were actually a *different* Hec and Lyta... This is as much of a character and *reasonableness* issue as strictly a continuity one, though, since Hec and Lyta started out in Infinity Inc, clearly within DC [albeit Earth-2 at the time] continuity.)
Splitting continuities is difficult and I come back more and more to an "Ultimate DC" solution, where younger (or the same age but without ~30 years of continuity behind them) versions of Batman, Superman, et al. get reintroduced, while a stretched-out version of normal continuity allows people who need to age *to* age. With room for things like Extreme Justice and Guy Gardner, Warrior to actually happen. (Although on that note, I was pleased that Rebirth acknowledged GGW even if it undid it.)
And yes, for a Bruce Wayne to age, too. Because I don't think a primary-continuity Bruce *will* be allowed to age, and I'm entirely sure I want him to. I, too, like the connectedness and *intergenerational*ness of current DC continuity, but a lot of that exists because of twenty-odd years of separate 'verses; and current continuity is jeopordizing it greatly. And, well, it says something about myself as a fan that I'm willing to wreak all sorts of havok on the Bats for the sake of keeping the JSA and Silver Age JLA on track, but, well, I'm not in charge of DC...
The thing about Hypertime--which would be as good a *mechicnism* for this as any, really--is that it was introduced rather badly and rarely used in a way that makes it at all clear what it *is* and how it can be used. It's stuff like Power Girl's continuity (where, say, she was once NOT at JSAer EVER but there was another adjacent 'verse where she WAS so there was a BLEED and no it's not that the writers were retconning/thought their predecessors were nuts/hadn't bothered to read the damn backissues) that gives Hypertime a bad name. Theoretically, Hypertime means that DC *has* a multiverse still, but when it's not being ignored it's as likely to be used to handwave a continuity glitch as anything else.